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	<title>Comments on: Who caused the financial crisis &#8212; villains or jerks?</title>
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		<title>By: S. Kirschmer, Menifee CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Kirschmer, Menifee CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerks and Villains are equally to blame; one creates the problem - and the other enables it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerks and Villains are equally to blame; one creates the problem &#8211; and the other enables it.</p>
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		<title>By: martin,Crossville,TN.</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin,Crossville,TN.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Chris Eagan! Don&#039;t bring in religion? Is that what you said? So now we have a non believer in God that wants to take away the right to free speech and expressing our personal thoughts.Boy your a real American aren&#039;t you? FACT: When God was the center of families and business(both) in the past, America became great because of it. You look at the statistics/history.You can&#039;t deny the FACTS!! So if you don&#039;t like God being mentioned in discussion,you leave the forum! Because I&#039;m not going to!!!And I will not allow you to dictated to me what I can say or add to any discussion. Why don&#039;t you leave that to the Obama administration? He&#039;ll attempt to target freedom of religious expression next. He doesn&#039;t need your help to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Chris Eagan! Don&#039;t bring in religion? Is that what you said? So now we have a non believer in God that wants to take away the right to free speech and expressing our personal thoughts.Boy your a real American aren&#039;t you? FACT: When God was the center of families and business(both) in the past, America became great because of it. You look at the statistics/history.You can&#039;t deny the FACTS!! So if you don&#039;t like God being mentioned in discussion,you leave the forum! Because I&#039;m not going to!!!And I will not allow you to dictated to me what I can say or add to any discussion. Why don&#039;t you leave that to the Obama administration? He&#039;ll attempt to target freedom of religious expression next. He doesn&#039;t need your help to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Lee Swagger  TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Lee Swagger  TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like all the politicians are trying to put the blame on others instead of taking responsibility. Just about 95% of the american population liked to spend and take loans that they could never pay back. Just about everyone that I know at work drives newer cars or big SUVs and trucks that they don’t actually use. Many people that I know go out to eat 2-3 times a week spending $60 a week just on restaurants. Everyone wants to have the newest cells, computers and flat screen TVs and they are surprised that they are in the hole??? On top of that people are not happy with a 2 bedroom apartment or house but they need one with 4 bedrooms if possible. Why is it that foreners have better financial health while earning less? Maybe because they learned to be happy with as little as they have. That’s why foreners pay off a house in 15 years versus americans that have a mortgage for 30 plus years. We all need to wake up and start being more responsibble and stop expecting handouts from the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like all the politicians are trying to put the blame on others instead of taking responsibility. Just about 95% of the american population liked to spend and take loans that they could never pay back. Just about everyone that I know at work drives newer cars or big SUVs and trucks that they don’t actually use. Many people that I know go out to eat 2-3 times a week spending $60 a week just on restaurants. Everyone wants to have the newest cells, computers and flat screen TVs and they are surprised that they are in the hole??? On top of that people are not happy with a 2 bedroom apartment or house but they need one with 4 bedrooms if possible. Why is it that foreners have better financial health while earning less? Maybe because they learned to be happy with as little as they have. That’s why foreners pay off a house in 15 years versus americans that have a mortgage for 30 plus years. We all need to wake up and start being more responsibble and stop expecting handouts from the government.</p>
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		<title>By: A SAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>A SAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Villian jerk is that not the same thing?  Common... we all know that at some point everything comes out in the wash...  I read the vanity article of AIG FP&#039;s &quot;machine&quot;  thought of Pink Floyd&#039;s &quot;Welcome to the machine&quot;  inparticular the line &quot;... the band is just fantastic, that is really what I think, and by the way which ones pink...&quot;  Reminds me of the fact that sometime it is good to be in the trenchs so you know what is really going on... not just assuming the CDO are loaded with 95 % prime mortgage... oops put the word sub infront of prime that is an accurate statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Villian jerk is that not the same thing?  Common&#8230; we all know that at some point everything comes out in the wash&#8230;  I read the vanity article of AIG FP&#039;s &#034;machine&#034;  thought of Pink Floyd&#039;s &#034;Welcome to the machine&#034;  inparticular the line &#034;&#8230; the band is just fantastic, that is really what I think, and by the way which ones pink&#8230;&#034;  Reminds me of the fact that sometime it is good to be in the trenchs so you know what is really going on&#8230; not just assuming the CDO are loaded with 95 % prime mortgage&#8230; oops put the word sub infront of prime that is an accurate statement.</p>
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		<title>By: John, Las Vegas NV</title>
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		<dc:creator>John, Las Vegas NV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admire Goldman for playing the system.  I think what they&#039;ve done is scummy and immoral, but you have to appreciate the intelligence of their execution.

Capitalists tax things.  Communists ban or cap things.  Bans and caps never work because there&#039;s always a way around them.

The way to stop this is to drastically increase the personal income tax rate on the wealthy, while, simultaneously, drastically lowering the business tax rate.  This will discourage the &quot;personal jackpot&quot; mentality and encourage the wealthy to keep their wealth in their business.

If I&#039;m investing money, I always keep it in industries close to me that I understand.

You have to discourage the wealthy from withdrawing money for wanton personal consumption.  If you drastically lower the exceedingly high US business tax rate and hike the personal income tax bracket back up to the 50%-70% rate it was 25 years ago, these bonus babies will go away.

Once the wealthy realize they have to invest for the long term, not for short term bonuses to buy that mansion in the Hamptons.  These short term plays will die off.

The way many companies are run these days reminds me of the business simulation game you play in business school.  At the end of the semester, when you&#039;re about to be graded, you cut your R&amp;D and marketing to zero and put all of your money into stock buybacks and dividends.  The &quot;company&quot; is in big trouble if you were to play the game past the time you&#039;re graded, but who cares about the company since you have your &quot;A&quot; and you&#039;ve moved on to the next victim.

In the real world, managers manage their companies for a big bonus check, then leave very soon after they collect their Lotto check.

If an executive had to pay 70% of that Lotto bonus check to the US Government and nothing if they left it invested in the company, don&#039;t you think they would manage it differently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admire Goldman for playing the system.  I think what they&#039;ve done is scummy and immoral, but you have to appreciate the intelligence of their execution.</p>
<p>Capitalists tax things.  Communists ban or cap things.  Bans and caps never work because there&#039;s always a way around them.</p>
<p>The way to stop this is to drastically increase the personal income tax rate on the wealthy, while, simultaneously, drastically lowering the business tax rate.  This will discourage the &#034;personal jackpot&#034; mentality and encourage the wealthy to keep their wealth in their business.</p>
<p>If I&#039;m investing money, I always keep it in industries close to me that I understand.</p>
<p>You have to discourage the wealthy from withdrawing money for wanton personal consumption.  If you drastically lower the exceedingly high US business tax rate and hike the personal income tax bracket back up to the 50%-70% rate it was 25 years ago, these bonus babies will go away.</p>
<p>Once the wealthy realize they have to invest for the long term, not for short term bonuses to buy that mansion in the Hamptons.  These short term plays will die off.</p>
<p>The way many companies are run these days reminds me of the business simulation game you play in business school.  At the end of the semester, when you&#039;re about to be graded, you cut your R&amp;D and marketing to zero and put all of your money into stock buybacks and dividends.  The &#034;company&#034; is in big trouble if you were to play the game past the time you&#039;re graded, but who cares about the company since you have your &#034;A&#034; and you&#039;ve moved on to the next victim.</p>
<p>In the real world, managers manage their companies for a big bonus check, then leave very soon after they collect their Lotto check.</p>
<p>If an executive had to pay 70% of that Lotto bonus check to the US Government and nothing if they left it invested in the company, don&#039;t you think they would manage it differently?</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Moreno Valley, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Moreno Valley, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, this is true there is in fact plenty of blame to go around. No one in their right mind can abjectively argue this point. However, not every person in America participated in this buying and selling frenzy. I know this for a fact because I am one American who still owns the same house and did not sell, remortgage, or trade up into a new home. However, I am still effected by bail outs to only the super rich with hopes that some of it will trickle down. I am in fact a part of jobs going over seas.

My point is, while everyone is busy pointing fingers there is no true solution on the table. That is the problem and the question of the day. Jobs are non existant, health care is only for those who can afford it, and public education is losing ground fast.

Americans read the constitution, &quot;That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.&quot;  

Change can only be done by the people for the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, this is true there is in fact plenty of blame to go around. No one in their right mind can abjectively argue this point. However, not every person in America participated in this buying and selling frenzy. I know this for a fact because I am one American who still owns the same house and did not sell, remortgage, or trade up into a new home. However, I am still effected by bail outs to only the super rich with hopes that some of it will trickle down. I am in fact a part of jobs going over seas.</p>
<p>My point is, while everyone is busy pointing fingers there is no true solution on the table. That is the problem and the question of the day. Jobs are non existant, health care is only for those who can afford it, and public education is losing ground fast.</p>
<p>Americans read the constitution, &#034;That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.&#034;  </p>
<p>Change can only be done by the people for the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Schmand, hakettstown NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Schmand, hakettstown NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys so desperate for news that you print this rubbish?!?

It does not matter if people like Goldman are idiots or evil. They helped to blow up the world financial system. Period. Bad

I myself am very suspicious and this causes me to generate another conspiracy theory of my own.

The Treasury lets small banks get away with buying  back the warrants cheaper then what they&#039;re worth.
That&#039;s as per the oversight board.

It&#039;s kind of odd that GS seems to never make a mistep and the Treasury is full of their alumni. Someone trying to feather a nest before going back to the mother ship? Would explain a lot. 

It&#039;s also odd how all of these analysists seem to of under estimated GS earnings about the same amount and they had the same projections.

Is this more of the banks feeding rubbish to &quot;independent&quot; analysists who print the junk.

The writers at CNN.Money should be embarassed about printing such rubbish w/o doing any reporting work.

Why are you not trying to investigate just why GS seems to be all knowing and omnipaant about trading.

You guys get a kick back for not being very inquisitive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys so desperate for news that you print this rubbish?!?</p>
<p>It does not matter if people like Goldman are idiots or evil. They helped to blow up the world financial system. Period. Bad</p>
<p>I myself am very suspicious and this causes me to generate another conspiracy theory of my own.</p>
<p>The Treasury lets small banks get away with buying  back the warrants cheaper then what they&#039;re worth.<br />
That&#039;s as per the oversight board.</p>
<p>It&#039;s kind of odd that GS seems to never make a mistep and the Treasury is full of their alumni. Someone trying to feather a nest before going back to the mother ship? Would explain a lot. </p>
<p>It&#039;s also odd how all of these analysists seem to of under estimated GS earnings about the same amount and they had the same projections.</p>
<p>Is this more of the banks feeding rubbish to &#034;independent&#034; analysists who print the junk.</p>
<p>The writers at CNN.Money should be embarassed about printing such rubbish w/o doing any reporting work.</p>
<p>Why are you not trying to investigate just why GS seems to be all knowing and omnipaant about trading.</p>
<p>You guys get a kick back for not being very inquisitive?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe - Sarasota FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe - Sarasota FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I was always taught, bad manners, bad judgment, bad actions ALWAYS start at the top. So who was at the top? 

Lehman, Morgan, Goldman (all owners of sub-prime conduits) and hedge fund in the country led the charge to create and implement the mortgage programs now bringing us down. Fannie, Freddie and even Golden West (World Savings- Wachovia) participated in creating the top down debacle.  

As a small broker/banker I along with hundreds of thousands were nothing more than pawns positioned to distribute the poison. If I was told to collect W-2&#039;s, paystubs, bank statements (as I did in the 80&#039;s) in order to sell the paper to my wholesalers or correspondent banks, I DID! If I was told not to collect anything I DID NOT! Very simple but obviously too simple for many to understand or perhaps not want to.  

These rules came from Fannie and Freddie who received their marching orders from the securities markets. No different than me getting my orders from my money suppliers. 

Today nothing has changed. I collect what I am told to collect. I do not make the rules, the guidelines or the regulations. I do not analyze or run models for the “what ifs”. Like thousands of others I only do what is necessary to originate and close a loan for people who need it. 

It should have been obvious when Barney Frank and Chris Dodd started in on the brokers as the ones responsible that was only a smoke screen to cover up their own blatant mistakes and as well to keep the heat off the true culprits. When Barney went after yield spread it was the first shot over the bow to brokers and bankers that your days are limited. Now we can see that with the recent release of new regulations, their ultimate goal is to limit he players and reduce the competition.    

I will predict that sooner than later, there will be no competition for loan products. The same banks who began this mess and who rec&#039;d the TARP funds are now the same lenders who are putting a stranglehold on America while they spend the bailout funds on everything but. 

The greed and evil began at the top and it continues to survive no matter what you or I say. A sad statement considering we’re a Democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was always taught, bad manners, bad judgment, bad actions ALWAYS start at the top. So who was at the top? </p>
<p>Lehman, Morgan, Goldman (all owners of sub-prime conduits) and hedge fund in the country led the charge to create and implement the mortgage programs now bringing us down. Fannie, Freddie and even Golden West (World Savings- Wachovia) participated in creating the top down debacle.  </p>
<p>As a small broker/banker I along with hundreds of thousands were nothing more than pawns positioned to distribute the poison. If I was told to collect W-2&#039;s, paystubs, bank statements (as I did in the 80&#039;s) in order to sell the paper to my wholesalers or correspondent banks, I DID! If I was told not to collect anything I DID NOT! Very simple but obviously too simple for many to understand or perhaps not want to.  </p>
<p>These rules came from Fannie and Freddie who received their marching orders from the securities markets. No different than me getting my orders from my money suppliers. </p>
<p>Today nothing has changed. I collect what I am told to collect. I do not make the rules, the guidelines or the regulations. I do not analyze or run models for the “what ifs”. Like thousands of others I only do what is necessary to originate and close a loan for people who need it. </p>
<p>It should have been obvious when Barney Frank and Chris Dodd started in on the brokers as the ones responsible that was only a smoke screen to cover up their own blatant mistakes and as well to keep the heat off the true culprits. When Barney went after yield spread it was the first shot over the bow to brokers and bankers that your days are limited. Now we can see that with the recent release of new regulations, their ultimate goal is to limit he players and reduce the competition.    </p>
<p>I will predict that sooner than later, there will be no competition for loan products. The same banks who began this mess and who rec&#039;d the TARP funds are now the same lenders who are putting a stranglehold on America while they spend the bailout funds on everything but. </p>
<p>The greed and evil began at the top and it continues to survive no matter what you or I say. A sad statement considering we’re a Democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rho, Chipley, FLorida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rho, Chipley, FLorida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who really needs this much money? You don&#039;t need a 9-digit gross income to enjoy a simple life.  The great equalizer will never come to American shores with these guys running the show.
More government is needed, true, but not by those who are just as corrupt as the crooks in skyscrapers who do all this. KISS, Wall St! Learn to live a simple life and everyone will benefit.  You might be able to even rehire all those underlings you downsized last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who really needs this much money? You don&#039;t need a 9-digit gross income to enjoy a simple life.  The great equalizer will never come to American shores with these guys running the show.<br />
More government is needed, true, but not by those who are just as corrupt as the crooks in skyscrapers who do all this. KISS, Wall St! Learn to live a simple life and everyone will benefit.  You might be able to even rehire all those underlings you downsized last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpha Blogger, Anchorage, AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpha Blogger, Anchorage, AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is plenty of blame to go around on this one.  The government increasing the quota of home loans that had to be be processed by the quasi federal agencies, FREDDY and FANNY; the people that applied for and received liar loans, the real estate people that sold the liar loans, the mortgage people that processed the liar loans, the Wall Street firms that repackaged the liar loans into AAA securities and again back to government that was not watching what was going on.  New York and California need to be especially proud of the level of integrity demonstrated by their mortgage and financial industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of blame to go around on this one.  The government increasing the quota of home loans that had to be be processed by the quasi federal agencies, FREDDY and FANNY; the people that applied for and received liar loans, the real estate people that sold the liar loans, the mortgage people that processed the liar loans, the Wall Street firms that repackaged the liar loans into AAA securities and again back to government that was not watching what was going on.  New York and California need to be especially proud of the level of integrity demonstrated by their mortgage and financial industries.</p>
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		<title>By: harry, Sicklverille, Nj</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry, Sicklverille, Nj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two people who quoted the Bible and Mentioned greed are exactly right. There is always a temptation to say,&quot; It&#039;s the government&#039;s fault or it&#039;s the investment firms fault.&quot; But at the end of the day one should ask themselves a question, &quot;If I were given the chance of making millions of dollars and no one would know how I did it, and eventhough it&#039;s technically not illegal, but I know it will hurt other people, who I do it?&quot; This is what happend, somehow has to sell homes and put prices out of wack with reality, folks deciding to gamble believing that the housing prices would continue to go up and thus taking riskier loans, lenders and mortagage agents pushing numbers up to get higher commissions, and so on. There are too many folks to blame, therefore, we are all part of the problem. We need to be honest with ourselves and forget about Political, Social, or Economic positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two people who quoted the Bible and Mentioned greed are exactly right. There is always a temptation to say,&#034; It&#039;s the government&#039;s fault or it&#039;s the investment firms fault.&#034; But at the end of the day one should ask themselves a question, &#034;If I were given the chance of making millions of dollars and no one would know how I did it, and eventhough it&#039;s technically not illegal, but I know it will hurt other people, who I do it?&#034; This is what happend, somehow has to sell homes and put prices out of wack with reality, folks deciding to gamble believing that the housing prices would continue to go up and thus taking riskier loans, lenders and mortagage agents pushing numbers up to get higher commissions, and so on. There are too many folks to blame, therefore, we are all part of the problem. We need to be honest with ourselves and forget about Political, Social, or Economic positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony,  Edison, NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony,  Edison, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Americans are partly at fault having lived beyond their means, the main reason for the mess is the combination of ALL the evil empires.

When you think of it objectively, you need to remember how many Americans have lost their well-paying jobs to those in overseas countries.  The result--the companies get richer.  The domestic work force gets squeezed.

Take those same folks, put them in part-time jobs in [other] evil empires, making half or less, and you have a recipe for disaster.  More homes for sale and less folks buying them. 

But the shareholders are happy, since their staff costs are down, and the profits stay up.

If Americans kept their jobs, the &#039;evil empires make less money (those poor guys.)

But if that happened, would there have been a housing collapse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Americans are partly at fault having lived beyond their means, the main reason for the mess is the combination of ALL the evil empires.</p>
<p>When you think of it objectively, you need to remember how many Americans have lost their well-paying jobs to those in overseas countries.  The result&#8211;the companies get richer.  The domestic work force gets squeezed.</p>
<p>Take those same folks, put them in part-time jobs in [other] evil empires, making half or less, and you have a recipe for disaster.  More homes for sale and less folks buying them. </p>
<p>But the shareholders are happy, since their staff costs are down, and the profits stay up.</p>
<p>If Americans kept their jobs, the &#039;evil empires make less money (those poor guys.)</p>
<p>But if that happened, would there have been a housing collapse?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Tampa FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike, Tampa FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from Wilson:

&quot;Never ascribe to conspiracy, that which is adequately explained by stupidity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from Wilson:</p>
<p>&#034;Never ascribe to conspiracy, that which is adequately explained by stupidity.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: J.Ayres  Falls Church, Va.</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/07/11/who-caused-the-financial-crisis-villains-or-jerks/#comment-18434</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Ayres  Falls Church, Va.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GREEDY oil speculators, oil investors, and oil traders coupled with oil companies and Wall Street,, in other words high oil prices and high gas prices have ruined our economy. Take oil off of Wall Street and let prices be dictated by supply and demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GREEDY oil speculators, oil investors, and oil traders coupled with oil companies and Wall Street,, in other words high oil prices and high gas prices have ruined our economy. Take oil off of Wall Street and let prices be dictated by supply and demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod, Braunschweig Germany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrod, Braunschweig Germany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the world going to realize that capitalism only allows for the transfer of money from one person to another.  It is an illusion that we have created for ourselves to allow a minority to feel that they are superior and a majority to have dreams to work for.  Do we really believe that our shares can only keep going up and that inflation will stay down?  The people with the most money are always going to have the upper hand in this game. If the world does not like the effect that capitalism causes, then maybe we should change the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the world going to realize that capitalism only allows for the transfer of money from one person to another.  It is an illusion that we have created for ourselves to allow a minority to feel that they are superior and a majority to have dreams to work for.  Do we really believe that our shares can only keep going up and that inflation will stay down?  The people with the most money are always going to have the upper hand in this game. If the world does not like the effect that capitalism causes, then maybe we should change the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick McDaniel / Lewisville, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick McDaniel / Lewisville, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate America, and indeed Global Corporations, have become totally corrupt.

Their management is totally corrupt, and self-serving, and their goal is not to make a corporate profit, but rather to line the pockets of top management, and the devil with who gets hurt in the process.

This situation started in the 1970&#039;s, and has deteriorated ever since, as management became devoted to themselves, rather than to good business practices.

If the government doesn&#039;t pass legislation to rein in these abuses, and cap corporate salaries and compensation, and to SEVERELY LIMIT stock options, then the government can only be considered to be part of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate America, and indeed Global Corporations, have become totally corrupt.</p>
<p>Their management is totally corrupt, and self-serving, and their goal is not to make a corporate profit, but rather to line the pockets of top management, and the devil with who gets hurt in the process.</p>
<p>This situation started in the 1970&#039;s, and has deteriorated ever since, as management became devoted to themselves, rather than to good business practices.</p>
<p>If the government doesn&#039;t pass legislation to rein in these abuses, and cap corporate salaries and compensation, and to SEVERELY LIMIT stock options, then the government can only be considered to be part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin, Philadelphia, PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin, Philadelphia, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the author has not taken the time to DENY any of Taibbi&#039;s reporting. Nor, please note, has Goldman Sacks. You wouldn&#039;t DARE, as answering the charges with any pretense of truth telling would belie the total dishonesty of their business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the author has not taken the time to DENY any of Taibbi&#039;s reporting. Nor, please note, has Goldman Sacks. You wouldn&#039;t DARE, as answering the charges with any pretense of truth telling would belie the total dishonesty of their business model.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg, Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg, Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you’d hard pressed to find anyone with a solid understanding of economics and market behavior ready to say we’ve seen the bottom. As it was pointed out, nobody wants to get involved with acquiring a bank and finding themselves under the restrictions that trap money brings. Not to mention the new capital and holding time requirements being proposed. 

http://www.beaconintegration.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you’d hard pressed to find anyone with a solid understanding of economics and market behavior ready to say we’ve seen the bottom. As it was pointed out, nobody wants to get involved with acquiring a bank and finding themselves under the restrictions that trap money brings. Not to mention the new capital and holding time requirements being proposed. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.beaconintegration.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.beaconintegration.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: MC, Austin, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC, Austin, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although a lot of things have contributed such as baby boomers aging and the gradual scarcity of energy there is one overriding reality that rarely gets discussed.

If the government decided to stop enforcing laws against murder I&#039;d be willing to bet that the murder rate would skyrocket. And I&#039;d be willing to bet that the government (and even much of the public) would blame the new murder epidemic on all of those evil murderers out there. Certainly the murderers are responsible for their actions but, realistically, there are people out there who are always going to do evil given the opportunity.

The government has been on a huge anti-regulation kick in recent years (it is now reversing, of course). It was inevitable that the government&#039;s not enforcing ethical standards in finance would lead to an increase in unscrupulous and irresponsible behavior which is exactly what happened.

Regardless of anything else this is why the bubble got so bad on so many fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although a lot of things have contributed such as baby boomers aging and the gradual scarcity of energy there is one overriding reality that rarely gets discussed.</p>
<p>If the government decided to stop enforcing laws against murder I&#039;d be willing to bet that the murder rate would skyrocket. And I&#039;d be willing to bet that the government (and even much of the public) would blame the new murder epidemic on all of those evil murderers out there. Certainly the murderers are responsible for their actions but, realistically, there are people out there who are always going to do evil given the opportunity.</p>
<p>The government has been on a huge anti-regulation kick in recent years (it is now reversing, of course). It was inevitable that the government&#039;s not enforcing ethical standards in finance would lead to an increase in unscrupulous and irresponsible behavior which is exactly what happened.</p>
<p>Regardless of anything else this is why the bubble got so bad on so many fronts.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris  Eagan, MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris  Eagan, MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John Seet &amp; others - Can we leave religion and this &quot;mystical god being&quot; off of this topic. Don&#039;t get me started on the flaws of religion next. 
Thank you sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John Seet &amp; others &#8211; Can we leave religion and this &#034;mystical god being&#034; off of this topic. Don&#039;t get me started on the flaws of religion next.<br />
Thank you sir.</p>
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