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	<title>Comments on: Can Obama keep up with falling home prices?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-21721</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 1997 28X70 mobile home that has been bricked underneath and looks just like a regular house inside and out.  Has been on the market for a almost a year.  We have been ready to close on this home 4 times.  In the end, just before the closing date each time the underwriters have rejected the our buyers.  The first time was on the appraisal. The second time was because it was older than 2004, even though it looks better than some of the ones on lots.  The third was because it did not have over 10 acres it only has 9 and3/4ths acres. The 4th was the underwriters changed to FHA and found past medical bills on the buyers for their child that is disabled.  What is up with this?  The home appraised for 92,000 and we are asking less.  I don&#039;t see why if someone is willing and capable of paying for a reasonably priced place they can&#039;t get it.  However, they have been told if you find a house we will finace it.
Thanks,
Donnyell
Nettleton, MS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 1997 28X70 mobile home that has been bricked underneath and looks just like a regular house inside and out.  Has been on the market for a almost a year.  We have been ready to close on this home 4 times.  In the end, just before the closing date each time the underwriters have rejected the our buyers.  The first time was on the appraisal. The second time was because it was older than 2004, even though it looks better than some of the ones on lots.  The third was because it did not have over 10 acres it only has 9 and3/4ths acres. The 4th was the underwriters changed to FHA and found past medical bills on the buyers for their child that is disabled.  What is up with this?  The home appraised for 92,000 and we are asking less.  I don&#039;t see why if someone is willing and capable of paying for a reasonably priced place they can&#039;t get it.  However, they have been told if you find a house we will finace it.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Donnyell<br />
Nettleton, MS</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford, Houston, TX</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-18083</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford, Houston, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone foolish enough to have voted for Obama. You have sealed your own pathetic fate for letting the rant of Socialist scum sway you. America is screwed. He is turning a disaster into catastrophe. I&#039;m not an economist but when Clinton passed the &quot;Home For Everyone Act in 1998 and GWBush did nothing to crush it our fate was sealed. 
I saw what was coming and saw how 20 year old piles of termite infested wood and brick would sell for 6 figure numbers in crime infested neighborhoods
I bought a mobile home a paid it off in a few years. I bought two late model economy cars and don&#039;t have credit card debt. I also saved a pile of cash that I am turning into gold, silver, guns and ammo. I don&#039;t owe money to anyone and take responsibility for my actions. Soon the reaper will harvest what debt ridden Americans have sown. Look at Detroit. Good Luck and God Bless, your gonna need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone foolish enough to have voted for Obama. You have sealed your own pathetic fate for letting the rant of Socialist scum sway you. America is screwed. He is turning a disaster into catastrophe. I&#039;m not an economist but when Clinton passed the &#034;Home For Everyone Act in 1998 and GWBush did nothing to crush it our fate was sealed.<br />
I saw what was coming and saw how 20 year old piles of termite infested wood and brick would sell for 6 figure numbers in crime infested neighborhoods<br />
I bought a mobile home a paid it off in a few years. I bought two late model economy cars and don&#039;t have credit card debt. I also saved a pile of cash that I am turning into gold, silver, guns and ammo. I don&#039;t owe money to anyone and take responsibility for my actions. Soon the reaper will harvest what debt ridden Americans have sown. Look at Detroit. Good Luck and God Bless, your gonna need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Redwood City, CA</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17908</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike, Redwood City, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of us who still have debt, rather than trying to refinance and borrow even more money &gt; 100% LTV, it would be better to reduce your debts. We are now in deflation: everybody wants $$$, so the value of money goes up and the value of stuff goes down. This may last until 2016, giving the bubble 9 years to deflate after it took 9 years to inflate beginning in 1998. If you don&#039;t reduce your debt, you&#039;ll get steadily crushed by deflation. It happened in the 1930s.

Assuming that you want to stay in your home, the simplest and least expensive thing to do is to renegotiate the loan with your lender to a fixed, lower interest rate without refinancing and all of its fees. Very simple. If the lender does not want to negotiate, you may want to move ... there are much cheaper homes available, some in your own neighborhood, and they&#039;re probably not be laden with so much debt.

Assuming that you don&#039;t want to stay in your home, the best options are probably short-selling or walking away.

I&#039;m sure there are other methods of reducing your debts, but these come to mind most quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of us who still have debt, rather than trying to refinance and borrow even more money &gt; 100% LTV, it would be better to reduce your debts. We are now in deflation: everybody wants $$$, so the value of money goes up and the value of stuff goes down. This may last until 2016, giving the bubble 9 years to deflate after it took 9 years to inflate beginning in 1998. If you don&#039;t reduce your debt, you&#039;ll get steadily crushed by deflation. It happened in the 1930s.</p>
<p>Assuming that you want to stay in your home, the simplest and least expensive thing to do is to renegotiate the loan with your lender to a fixed, lower interest rate without refinancing and all of its fees. Very simple. If the lender does not want to negotiate, you may want to move &#8230; there are much cheaper homes available, some in your own neighborhood, and they&#039;re probably not be laden with so much debt.</p>
<p>Assuming that you don&#039;t want to stay in your home, the best options are probably short-selling or walking away.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure there are other methods of reducing your debts, but these come to mind most quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W. Euless, TX</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17826</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W. Euless, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this is a little off center, howabout upping the $8,000 down pyments to 25,000, which would bring a lot of fence sitters back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this is a little off center, howabout upping the $8,000 down pyments to 25,000, which would bring a lot of fence sitters back.</p>
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		<title>By: Burk, San Jose, CA</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17825</link>
		<dc:creator>Burk, San Jose, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 2 decades ago, just starting in my career, I dreamt of homeownership, and still do.  At the time my grandpa told me not to view a home as an investment.  Although I argued with him that renting was throwing money away for good, I respected his experience, and have come to see his point more clearly over time.  I still wanted to buy a home, though, all this time, but never felt that my income could justify it, although undoubtedly I could have qualified for a loan up until 2006/7.  Now, I say let the prices drop, I may just buy in in another year or two if the collateral damage to the stock market from this mess isn&#039;t too severe.
Part of the reason so many people are in trouble isn&#039;t just from buying beyond their means, it&#039;s from treating their home like a bank, and using the equity to buy fancy cars and boats and whatnot.  Well, they weren&#039;t complaining about crooked appraisers at the time, with inflated valuations, now were they?  Funny how the chickens always come home to roost, and funny how an old man who worked his way up to a VP position in a major company without the &quot;benefit&quot; of a college education knew a thing or two about value!  Thanks, grandpa, for keeping it real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 2 decades ago, just starting in my career, I dreamt of homeownership, and still do.  At the time my grandpa told me not to view a home as an investment.  Although I argued with him that renting was throwing money away for good, I respected his experience, and have come to see his point more clearly over time.  I still wanted to buy a home, though, all this time, but never felt that my income could justify it, although undoubtedly I could have qualified for a loan up until 2006/7.  Now, I say let the prices drop, I may just buy in in another year or two if the collateral damage to the stock market from this mess isn&#039;t too severe.<br />
Part of the reason so many people are in trouble isn&#039;t just from buying beyond their means, it&#039;s from treating their home like a bank, and using the equity to buy fancy cars and boats and whatnot.  Well, they weren&#039;t complaining about crooked appraisers at the time, with inflated valuations, now were they?  Funny how the chickens always come home to roost, and funny how an old man who worked his way up to a VP position in a major company without the &#034;benefit&#034; of a college education knew a thing or two about value!  Thanks, grandpa, for keeping it real.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Miskiel, Cottonwood, AZ</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17820</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Miskiel, Cottonwood, AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if they go to a 200% LTV, the banks cant handle the re-fi and loan mod programs now and frankly they don&#039;t want to.  All one needs to do is read the stories of people attempting to take advantage of the re-fi and loan mod programs and the horror stories of misplaced paperwork and stall tactics from the banks and this is enough to tell you that until the fed stops putting band aids on gaping wounds and playing nice with the banks, that these programs will not work.  Hopefully they will do significant triage before we bleed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t care if they go to a 200% LTV, the banks cant handle the re-fi and loan mod programs now and frankly they don&#039;t want to.  All one needs to do is read the stories of people attempting to take advantage of the re-fi and loan mod programs and the horror stories of misplaced paperwork and stall tactics from the banks and this is enough to tell you that until the fed stops putting band aids on gaping wounds and playing nice with the banks, that these programs will not work.  Hopefully they will do significant triage before we bleed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawna, KC, Missouri</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17813</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawna, KC, Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Increasing the maximum underwater value will only prolong the inevitable and keep the market falsely inflated. 

To anyone underwater and considering walking away from their house - PLEASE DO! The government&#039;s (and taxpayer&#039;s) role is NOT to subsidize YOUR losses. Get over it, stop whining and move on. Walk away from your house if you want - the market will hit a natural equilibrium faster that way and houses will once again become affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increasing the maximum underwater value will only prolong the inevitable and keep the market falsely inflated. </p>
<p>To anyone underwater and considering walking away from their house &#8211; PLEASE DO! The government&#039;s (and taxpayer&#039;s) role is NOT to subsidize YOUR losses. Get over it, stop whining and move on. Walk away from your house if you want &#8211; the market will hit a natural equilibrium faster that way and houses will once again become affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17812</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last sentence in this article says it all...that&#039;s the money sentence.  Obama is evil, and all his tricks to punish people who acted responsibly, while rewarding people who were in business to make money and/or greedy in trying to flip for profit, will eventually fail anyway.  Let prices reset naturally, and REWARD prudent people who are waiting on the sidelines to benefit.  That&#039;s true capitalism.  Obama&#039;s socialism will lead to fascism and destruction of the American way.  I voted for Obama, and now I feel like a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last sentence in this article says it all&#8230;that&#039;s the money sentence.  Obama is evil, and all his tricks to punish people who acted responsibly, while rewarding people who were in business to make money and/or greedy in trying to flip for profit, will eventually fail anyway.  Let prices reset naturally, and REWARD prudent people who are waiting on the sidelines to benefit.  That&#039;s true capitalism.  Obama&#039;s socialism will lead to fascism and destruction of the American way.  I voted for Obama, and now I feel like a fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Lenzi, Gig Harbor WA</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17801</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Lenzi, Gig Harbor WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Home Prices?

Although it&#039;s somewhat painful it seems we want it both ways.  Home prices to stabilize (stop going down) and Americans to be better prepped for retirement.  It would seem that in macro more affordable housing (allowing home prices to keep reducing) would allow for a better cost of living and many American&#039;s to spend income on something other than house payments and property tax.

I&#039;m not sure why this is not mentioned more other than it does not benefit anyone who makes a living off real eatate transactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Home Prices?</p>
<p>Although it&#039;s somewhat painful it seems we want it both ways.  Home prices to stabilize (stop going down) and Americans to be better prepped for retirement.  It would seem that in macro more affordable housing (allowing home prices to keep reducing) would allow for a better cost of living and many American&#039;s to spend income on something other than house payments and property tax.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure why this is not mentioned more other than it does not benefit anyone who makes a living off real eatate transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles San Diego Ca,</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17784</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles San Diego Ca,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No LTV guidelines is the only thing that will work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No LTV guidelines is the only thing that will work!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Dill, Anthem, Arizona</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17781</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dill, Anthem, Arizona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is nobody talking about the tremedous loss of jobs that Obama&#039;s heathcare plan will cause?  It has been estimated that over 100,000 U.S. jobs could be lost under a government sponsored healthcare system

In my business, we are already seeing signs of a pulback.  My web site, http://www,gorllamedicalsales.com , which privides a job board for medical device sales reps to find new jobs, most of the companies have adopted a wait-and-see position towards filling vacant jobs until the specter of the Obama healthcare plan is defined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is nobody talking about the tremedous loss of jobs that Obama&#039;s heathcare plan will cause?  It has been estimated that over 100,000 U.S. jobs could be lost under a government sponsored healthcare system</p>
<p>In my business, we are already seeing signs of a pulback.  My web site, <a href="http://www,gorllamedicalsales.com" rel="nofollow">http://www,gorllamedicalsales.com</a> , which privides a job board for medical device sales reps to find new jobs, most of the companies have adopted a wait-and-see position towards filling vacant jobs until the specter of the Obama healthcare plan is defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17780</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The efforts by the administration to stem the downward housing slide are doomed to continue to fail. Housing is a cracked egg that is largely beyond repair, and the efforts being made are like attempts to place a bandaid on a wet wound.  It will never take.    

Home ownership has been a way of building wealth, but in an indirect way through which you saved some of what you spent.  We all need a place to live, and if you were going to spend money on that to begin with, might as well get something for it was the line realtors used. With prices historically increasing homes became defacto piggy banks, and when it came time to retire most people had real value in their home (in fact for many it was, and still may be (just worth a whole lot less) their biggest asset). 

But, considering real estate taxes and maintenance, at best, home ownership is a goofy &quot;investment&quot;, and in most cases, it isn&#039;t an investment at all in the sense that the money you are putting into it will increase in value.  Rather, the real &quot;investment&quot; in home ownership is &quot;how much of what you spent are you going to be able to get back?&quot;, and today the answer is pitifully little.  (Sure, there are some exceptions perhaps, but those are largely for the benefit of speculators and not something ordinary homeowners can participate in).  Realtors can peddle their lies about &quot;tax advantages&quot; all they want(since when is paying the bank $1.00 and saving .28 in taxes a smart move?) and they can try to peddle more of their lies regarding home &quot;appreciation&quot;, the fact of the matter is that it really is not true for most people.       

Consider that real estate taxes make the idea of home &quot;ownership&quot; a misnomer to begin with.  Because of those taxes you never really own any land, unless you are tax exempt like the church or the government.  Now, we and many others are seeing real estate taxes increase (despite the plummeting value of underlying property).  The  various government entities at the real estate tax feeding trough still need the money they have become accustomed to spending, and even more is being piled onto the real estate owners back because tax revenue from other sources is decreasing.  Even without that phenonemon, those same taxes contribute to undermining  home &quot;ownership&quot; real rate of return.

What I think the current financial mess is illustrating (and I am afraid that this is the new reality and it is not going to change going forward) is that home ownership as a way of building for the future is largely an idiot&#039;s game.  

Our home was appraised at $650,000 in 2002 (our last refinance).  The home was purchased as new constuction in 1994 for $250,000, plus the cost of the land ($78,500).  The house is now said to be worth $380,000 according to Zillow.com.  After 15 years of having &quot;owned&quot; (there is no more mortgage) a new construction house we have negative equity after taking into account acquisition cost and the hard money that has since gone into the house in terms of landscaping and other capital improvements.  That statement is even more true when you consider that the hard dollars actually paid were worth more then than they are today.  If you add real estate taxes during that period (roughly $120,000 over the fifteen years, and currently $11,500 a year - on a house worth $380,000), you would have to be an idiot to think that today, a home could possibly be an &quot;investment&quot;.  

The sad part is that a home isn&#039;t even a round about way of &quot;saving&quot; money anymore.  That is to say, in addition to a significant part of our net worth just have disappeared during the real estate/financial crises, it is not going to come back - ever. Sure, our &quot;value&quot; might go up in raw dollars - but with all the money the government is spending, those inflated &quot;increased&quot; dollars are going to be worth a whole lot less, and we will never again see even the hard dollars put into the house.  We would have more had we simply put the money spent into a mattress.  My advice to anyone even thinking about buying a home today is don&#039;t.  Rent (it is much much cheaper over the long run) and you get the privilege of walking away from it when it goes to hell in a handbasket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The efforts by the administration to stem the downward housing slide are doomed to continue to fail. Housing is a cracked egg that is largely beyond repair, and the efforts being made are like attempts to place a bandaid on a wet wound.  It will never take.    </p>
<p>Home ownership has been a way of building wealth, but in an indirect way through which you saved some of what you spent.  We all need a place to live, and if you were going to spend money on that to begin with, might as well get something for it was the line realtors used. With prices historically increasing homes became defacto piggy banks, and when it came time to retire most people had real value in their home (in fact for many it was, and still may be (just worth a whole lot less) their biggest asset). </p>
<p>But, considering real estate taxes and maintenance, at best, home ownership is a goofy &#034;investment&#034;, and in most cases, it isn&#039;t an investment at all in the sense that the money you are putting into it will increase in value.  Rather, the real &#034;investment&#034; in home ownership is &#034;how much of what you spent are you going to be able to get back?&#034;, and today the answer is pitifully little.  (Sure, there are some exceptions perhaps, but those are largely for the benefit of speculators and not something ordinary homeowners can participate in).  Realtors can peddle their lies about &#034;tax advantages&#034; all they want(since when is paying the bank $1.00 and saving .28 in taxes a smart move?) and they can try to peddle more of their lies regarding home &#034;appreciation&#034;, the fact of the matter is that it really is not true for most people.       </p>
<p>Consider that real estate taxes make the idea of home &#034;ownership&#034; a misnomer to begin with.  Because of those taxes you never really own any land, unless you are tax exempt like the church or the government.  Now, we and many others are seeing real estate taxes increase (despite the plummeting value of underlying property).  The  various government entities at the real estate tax feeding trough still need the money they have become accustomed to spending, and even more is being piled onto the real estate owners back because tax revenue from other sources is decreasing.  Even without that phenonemon, those same taxes contribute to undermining  home &#034;ownership&#034; real rate of return.</p>
<p>What I think the current financial mess is illustrating (and I am afraid that this is the new reality and it is not going to change going forward) is that home ownership as a way of building for the future is largely an idiot&#039;s game.  </p>
<p>Our home was appraised at $650,000 in 2002 (our last refinance).  The home was purchased as new constuction in 1994 for $250,000, plus the cost of the land ($78,500).  The house is now said to be worth $380,000 according to Zillow.com.  After 15 years of having &#034;owned&#034; (there is no more mortgage) a new construction house we have negative equity after taking into account acquisition cost and the hard money that has since gone into the house in terms of landscaping and other capital improvements.  That statement is even more true when you consider that the hard dollars actually paid were worth more then than they are today.  If you add real estate taxes during that period (roughly $120,000 over the fifteen years, and currently $11,500 a year &#8211; on a house worth $380,000), you would have to be an idiot to think that today, a home could possibly be an &#034;investment&#034;.  </p>
<p>The sad part is that a home isn&#039;t even a round about way of &#034;saving&#034; money anymore.  That is to say, in addition to a significant part of our net worth just have disappeared during the real estate/financial crises, it is not going to come back &#8211; ever. Sure, our &#034;value&#034; might go up in raw dollars &#8211; but with all the money the government is spending, those inflated &#034;increased&#034; dollars are going to be worth a whole lot less, and we will never again see even the hard dollars put into the house.  We would have more had we simply put the money spent into a mattress.  My advice to anyone even thinking about buying a home today is don&#039;t.  Rent (it is much much cheaper over the long run) and you get the privilege of walking away from it when it goes to hell in a handbasket.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg, St Paul, MN</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17778</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg, St Paul, MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another reason someone might walk away - one I haven&#039;t seen mentioned here - crime.
My husband and I bought a home four years ago in an up-and-coming neighborhood.  Thanks to the insane home prices in the rest of the city it was all we could afford.  
But the neighborhood is now riddled with foreclosures.  People break into vacant homes to steal and sell the copper pipes, we&#039;ve got homeless squatters, and falling down houses.  The final straw (for us) was a double shooting literally around the corner.
So what do we do now?  We kept our payment affordable, we put a lot of money into the house, and behaved responsibly, but it now has negative equity.  Even if we wanted to sell at just a breakeven price we couldn&#039;t.
So we can&#039;t get out responsibly but we&#039;re becoming afraid to live there.  As much as we hate it, and it goes against everything we&#039;ve both been taught, we might have to walk away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s another reason someone might walk away &#8211; one I haven&#039;t seen mentioned here &#8211; crime.<br />
My husband and I bought a home four years ago in an up-and-coming neighborhood.  Thanks to the insane home prices in the rest of the city it was all we could afford.<br />
But the neighborhood is now riddled with foreclosures.  People break into vacant homes to steal and sell the copper pipes, we&#039;ve got homeless squatters, and falling down houses.  The final straw (for us) was a double shooting literally around the corner.<br />
So what do we do now?  We kept our payment affordable, we put a lot of money into the house, and behaved responsibly, but it now has negative equity.  Even if we wanted to sell at just a breakeven price we couldn&#039;t.<br />
So we can&#039;t get out responsibly but we&#039;re becoming afraid to live there.  As much as we hate it, and it goes against everything we&#039;ve both been taught, we might have to walk away.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cantwell, Bradenton FL</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17756</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cantwell, Bradenton FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a 9 year seasoned mortgage professional, I can say from experience that our fiat monetary policy under the Federal Reserve is the root cause of the housing bubble. 

Sure there were also other facets of the industry that aided in channeling the funds to the housing industry but only one entity has the power to create enough money by keeping interest rates low enough to fuel the engine and keep it running long enough to create an explosive economic meltdown just like when your car engine is pegged at 7K rpm&#039;s, eventually the engine seizes and the party is over. 

CNN can take down all my comments it likes, it doesn&#039;t change the facts &amp; the more people educate themselves and ask critical thinking questions like what the role of government &amp; money ought to be in a free society, nothing will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 9 year seasoned mortgage professional, I can say from experience that our fiat monetary policy under the Federal Reserve is the root cause of the housing bubble. </p>
<p>Sure there were also other facets of the industry that aided in channeling the funds to the housing industry but only one entity has the power to create enough money by keeping interest rates low enough to fuel the engine and keep it running long enough to create an explosive economic meltdown just like when your car engine is pegged at 7K rpm&#039;s, eventually the engine seizes and the party is over. </p>
<p>CNN can take down all my comments it likes, it doesn&#039;t change the facts &amp; the more people educate themselves and ask critical thinking questions like what the role of government &amp; money ought to be in a free society, nothing will change.</p>
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		<title>By: John, Cleveland, OH</title>
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		<dc:creator>John, Cleveland, OH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ther is a lot of blame to pass along to the real estate appraisers for the low value of homes.
Appraisals are not based on the condition, appearance, sq footage or how well maintained. They just compare sale prices to run down foreclousers and short sales. If these sales were elimated ( at least the auction sales )the average price of homes would increase. You don&#039;t value all used cars on a used car lot to what other used cars sell for regardless of condition, so why do it to more valuable property ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ther is a lot of blame to pass along to the real estate appraisers for the low value of homes.<br />
Appraisals are not based on the condition, appearance, sq footage or how well maintained. They just compare sale prices to run down foreclousers and short sales. If these sales were elimated ( at least the auction sales )the average price of homes would increase. You don&#039;t value all used cars on a used car lot to what other used cars sell for regardless of condition, so why do it to more valuable property ?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G.  Jackson, NJ</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17726</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G.  Jackson, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The correct approach should be to give each HOUSEHOLD in the US money to correct the economy.  According to the last census there are approx. 110,000,000 HOUSEHOLDS in the US.  Had we simply deposited $100,000 into each HOUSEHOLD&#039;s bank account earlier this year we would have QUICKLY stabilzed our economy.  Those who could stave off foreclosure and refinance, would.  Those who could pay off credit cards, would.  Those who could elimate medical bills, would.  Those who could pay off their mortgage, would.  Those who could pay off their car, would.  Those who could pay off their student loans, would.  Those who would buy American products such as a new car, would.  The banks would have been flush with the cash they needed to stay solvent and the $11 trillion of money would have circulated so fast thorugh our economy America would not be in the financial difficulties we are in now.  Of course any household with any connection the US Senate, House of Representatives or any govenor of a state or state legislature would be exempt from this plan that the government should be implenting instead of the stupid $12 trillion worth of plans they have committed to already.  My plan saves us $1 trillion  and gets the ecpnomy back on it&#039;s feet again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The correct approach should be to give each HOUSEHOLD in the US money to correct the economy.  According to the last census there are approx. 110,000,000 HOUSEHOLDS in the US.  Had we simply deposited $100,000 into each HOUSEHOLD&#039;s bank account earlier this year we would have QUICKLY stabilzed our economy.  Those who could stave off foreclosure and refinance, would.  Those who could pay off credit cards, would.  Those who could elimate medical bills, would.  Those who could pay off their mortgage, would.  Those who could pay off their car, would.  Those who could pay off their student loans, would.  Those who would buy American products such as a new car, would.  The banks would have been flush with the cash they needed to stay solvent and the $11 trillion of money would have circulated so fast thorugh our economy America would not be in the financial difficulties we are in now.  Of course any household with any connection the US Senate, House of Representatives or any govenor of a state or state legislature would be exempt from this plan that the government should be implenting instead of the stupid $12 trillion worth of plans they have committed to already.  My plan saves us $1 trillion  and gets the ecpnomy back on it&#039;s feet again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Philadelphia, PA</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17716</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob, Philadelphia, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Nikki

Nikki, this program was never meant to help the worst off, it was designed to act as a firebreak between people who were hopelessly underwater and the people who were teetering on the edge.

By attempting to quickly refi the people who were in danger of becoming too far behind the curve, it was hoped that as the market continued to soften, the government could continue to put people who crossed the line into the new program.

People who are already at 150% of value are going to make their payments or lose their houses. If the government stepped in and refi&#039;d or guaranteed all of these loans for say, two years, we&#039;d be in the same boat again in two years. The difference would be that many individuals who now had extra room every month would simply spend the money on consumer products, and not plow it back into the house, because the house is still at risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Nikki</p>
<p>Nikki, this program was never meant to help the worst off, it was designed to act as a firebreak between people who were hopelessly underwater and the people who were teetering on the edge.</p>
<p>By attempting to quickly refi the people who were in danger of becoming too far behind the curve, it was hoped that as the market continued to soften, the government could continue to put people who crossed the line into the new program.</p>
<p>People who are already at 150% of value are going to make their payments or lose their houses. If the government stepped in and refi&#039;d or guaranteed all of these loans for say, two years, we&#039;d be in the same boat again in two years. The difference would be that many individuals who now had extra room every month would simply spend the money on consumer products, and not plow it back into the house, because the house is still at risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent, Richmond VA</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17697</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent, Richmond VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikki, Las Vegas;

Please tell me where in the constitution it says that the government is responsible for your home price or bailing you out from a stupid purchase?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikki, Las Vegas;</p>
<p>Please tell me where in the constitution it says that the government is responsible for your home price or bailing you out from a stupid purchase?</p>
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		<title>By: John Santos, Miami, FL</title>
		<link>http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com/2009/06/27/can-obama-keep-up-with-falling-home-prices/#comment-17695</link>
		<dc:creator>John Santos, Miami, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All we are doing is pushing back the day of reckoning with all this stimulus and questionable re-financing practices. At the end of the day, throwing money at it will just make it worse. If we can&#039;t pay it now, we definitely can&#039;t pay it later when we get hit with the massive interest payments.
Pretty soon, I will not be able to pay my mortgage trying to pay mine and others that get crazy refinancing like this..... because we are going to be stuck paying for it in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we are doing is pushing back the day of reckoning with all this stimulus and questionable re-financing practices. At the end of the day, throwing money at it will just make it worse. If we can&#039;t pay it now, we definitely can&#039;t pay it later when we get hit with the massive interest payments.<br />
Pretty soon, I will not be able to pay my mortgage trying to pay mine and others that get crazy refinancing like this&#8230;.. because we are going to be stuck paying for it in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: jc ,roseville , ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc ,roseville , ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do not feel sorry for these pin heads that are loosing their homes ! they have it coming to them ! not my fault they couldnt read the fine print ! most were greedy and hoped to make a quik buck knowing full well they couldnt afford the house they were purchasing ! im looking forward to purchasing their home for 1/3 the price they paid ! thankyou !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do not feel sorry for these pin heads that are loosing their homes ! they have it coming to them ! not my fault they couldnt read the fine print ! most were greedy and hoped to make a quik buck knowing full well they couldnt afford the house they were purchasing ! im looking forward to purchasing their home for 1/3 the price they paid ! thankyou !</p>
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